The C word is “class”. In this episode Pip Stafford and guest host, Andrew Harper, talk about the friction between class and art, featuring interviews with Mish Grigor and Miriam McGarry.

Miriam McGarry’s Hidden Cities podcast: https://hiddencitiespodcast.net/

Mish Grigor’s Class Act: https://aphids.net/projects/class-act/

Music by Blue Dot Sessions

Episode produced, edited and hosted by Pip Stafford.