In Episode 4 of Season 3 we talk to Penelope Benton and Brianna Munting of NAVA, Channon Goodwin of Bus Projects and All Conference and Grace Herbert of Visual Bulk, Constance ARI and Hobiennale about labour and volunteerism in the arts. We ask the questions about why artists and arts workers work for free, when is it okay to work for free and what happens when arts organisations begin to pay artists and workers for their time.

This episode was written and hosted by Theia Connell, and produced and edited by Pip Stafford.